What Todd Combs did right during his first meeting with Warren Buffett
Todd Combs says his willingness to give his honest opinion and unwillingness to “kiss ass” helped him get hired as one of Berkshire Hathaway’s two investment managers in 2010.
Toward the end of a 67-minute conversation for the Art of Investing podcast from Colossus, Coombs describes his first meeting with Warren Buffett, before he was hired.
“Warren, he was right into stocks from the beginning,” asking, for example, why Coombs favored Mastercard over Buffett’s long-time favorite American Express.
And when Buffett asked if Progressive is better than GEICO, Combs told him the Berkshire unit is “better at marketing and branding, but Progressive is a data company and data is going to win in the long run.”
(Coombs, who has been GEICO’s CEO since 2020, added in his podcast interview, “And obviously, I didn’t know the tech stack at GEICO like I do now.”)
Todd Combs during an appearance on CNBC in 2014. Photo: CNBC | Lacy O’Toole
Coombs says he thinks Buffett “appreciated the candidness, because when you’re CEO, or especially Warren or whatever, everybody kisses your ass, everybody tells you what they think you want to hear… and I just didn’t care. I’m irreverent in that regard.
“This is my opinion, take it or leave it. I don’t care. I don’t have to agree with you. I’m not here to agree with you. And you’re not here to agree with me. That is just my opinion. I could be wrong, but it is what it is. So that honesty, I guess, is at least genuine and authentic.”
One big Berkshire name considered buying another big Berkshire name
Chevron CEO Mike Worth was “interested” as recently as the beginning of this year in having his company acquire Occidental Petroleum, but that “interest has fizzled in recent months,” according to a report last weekend in The Wall Street Journal on what could be a growing wave of consolidations in the oil industry.
If there had been a deal, it would have combined two of Berkshire Hathaway’s biggest portfolio holdings.
As of that same date, Berkshire reported holding 224 million Occidental shares. It is, by far, that company’s biggest shareholder.
Chevron and Occidental Petroleum logos as displayed on screens at the NYSE. Photos: REUTERS/Brendan McDermid
At today’s closing prices, the Chevron stake is valued at $20.2 billion and the Occidental holding is worth $14.4 billion, for a total of $34.6 billion.
A combination of the two would be Berkshire’s second-biggest holding, ahead of Bank of America at $27.6 billion, but still well behind Apple at $163.7 billion.
TheJournal reports Chevron has “moved on to other, smaller targets” with several options among shale frackers in the Permian Basin.
Warren Buffett says it is tempting for him to spend millions on political causes he supports by contributing to super PACs,but “we’ve got enough a push toward a plutocracy from a lot of other factors that we don’t need to throw it into the voting process.”
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